Political analyst Ralph Mathekga unpacks the state of provinces and provincial leadership after the ANC’s December 2017 conference.

The country’s provinces saw a lot of turmoil in the build-up to the 2017 elective conference.

Five months later, the SABC’s Morning Live took a look at what has unfolded, by speaking to Mathekga.

He says, “It matters a lot what is happening in the provinces and I think it’s becoming very clear to political leaders across the board that if you really want to consolidate power, you need your allies at provinces, you need to try to use the provinces as strategic centres of consolidation.”

Watch the full interview below: